NJ Pistol

Camp Perry - Frequently Asked Questions

The National Outdoor Pistol Championships - Camp Perry - Port Clinton, OH

An incredible week of shooting:

Typical traveling day from NJ to Ohio is Sunday (8-10 hour drive)
-Monday is SAFS and NRA packet pickup
-Tuesday is for practice and Revolver matches
-Wednesday is Preliminary day
-Thursday is .22 day
-Friday is Centerfire day (and New Jersey TEAM DINNER!)
-Saturday is .45 day (end of NRA matches)
-last Sunday is for CMP matches, and then many hit the road back to NJ!

Here are some of the most common inquiries:

CMP or NRA - What are all these matches?

What about TEAMS?

How do I enter?

How do I know where and when to shoot?

What do REFEREES do?

Port Clinton local restaurants

What should I bring?

(If your question is not included here, please email Mary@NJPistol.com!)

CMP or NRA - What are all these matches?

The CMP (Civilian Marksanship Program) runs SAFS (Small Arms Firing School) which takes place on Monday of Pistol Week at the National Matches. The CMP also runs the "hardball*" matches (a.k.a. "Service Pistol*") - there are "warm-up" match associated with SAFS (Monday and Tuesday), but the main CMP matches are conducted on the last Sunday, AFTER the NRA matches are completed!

EVENT	WHO RUNS IT	FIREARM	COURSE OF FIRE	WHEN?
SAFS	CMP	M9 - you can't use your own!	30 round (NMC) match is included - EIC "Leg" points to top 10%	Monday
Advanced SAFS (minimum of 10 EIC points or NRA EX classification ONLY!)	CMP	looks like you CAN use your own gun?!	30 round (NMC) "warm-up" match is also offered	Monday-Tuesday
President's 100	CMP	M9 or 1911A1 (see CMP rules) - JUNIORS** use .22 with iron sights	40 rounds - 2 strings of slow fire, then timed and rapid	last Sunday
NTI	CMP	M9 or 1911A1 - JUNIORS** use .22 with iron sights	30 round NMC- EIC "Leg" points to top 10%	last Sunday

**Service Pistol (or "hardball") specifications generally mean iron sighted and unmodified 1911A1 (or M9A1) using 230 grain (or 115-125 grain) FMJRN ammo (reloads are now allowed!) See CMP Rules (p.30-36) for full details!

*Juniors compete in a special junior category if they fire AS JUNIORS for CMP matches. As such they must use .22 caliber pistols with iron sights and are NOT eligible for points toward Distinguished Pistol Shot with their .22 scores. An advanced Junior MAY fire in the adult matches (but can't enter to shoot BOTH .22 as a junior and "regular" hardball with 9mm or .45!)

The NRA (National Rifle Competitions Division) runs the Harry Reeves, Distinguished Revolver, and the .22 caliber, Centerfire and .45 caliber Championship matches!

EVENT	WHO RUNS IT	FIREARM	COURSE OF FIRE	WHEN?
Harry Reeves	NRA	ANY revolver	30 round NMC	Tuesday
Distinguished Revolver	NRA	"DR" revolver (see NRA rules)	30 round NMC	Tuesday
Preliminary match	NRA	.22, CF AND .45	30 round NMC WITH EACH GUN	Wednesday
.22 match	NRA	.22 caliber	90 round "900" with slow fire at 50 yards	Thursday
CF match	NRA	.32, .38 or .45	90 round "900" with slow fire at 50 yards	Friday
.45 match	NRA	.45 caliber	90 round "900" with slow fire at 50 yards	Saturday

Q: What about TEAMS?

NOTE: NJ State Teams will be entered by the State Pistol Chairman (John Gemmill) AT CAMP PERRY! You do NOT have to sign up for any TEAM matches when you enter online or by mail - just sign up for your individual matches (see above!) Let John know if you are interested in firing on a Team!

IMPORTANT NOTE: You must belong to NJ State Association (ANJRPC) for at least 30 days to fire on a NJ State Team!

Click HERE to join!

Team Matches are conducted on Thursday, Friday and Saturday for each of the 3 guns of the NRA Championship. They are held AFTER the individual matches for that gun are finished for that day.

Team matches are 30 round NMC - 4 members of each team will be chosen to fire on any given day - they fire 2 at a time (-i.e., there are two 30-round relays) - the non-firing team members help with scoring.

Team matches are ALSO conducted for "hardball" on Sunday! Juniors may be on 2-person teams!

NOTE: Your individual squadding location will likely be on a different point, and may be on a different range than your team squadding!

Q: How do I enter?

NOTE: The NRA allows you to sign up for JUST Harry Reeves or DR
BUT there is no way to sign up for JUST .22 or just .22 and Centerfire or just .45 - the NRA Pistol Championship matches (.22, CF and .45) are a "package deal" - you have to pay for all 3 guns even if your schedule won't permit staying to shoot them all!

FOR NRA MATCHES:

1- ONLINE ENTRY (with payment by credit card)

2- Snail mail - get forms here

IMPORTANT NOTE: You AND A NEW SHOOTER can EACH get a $20 discount ($10 for Juniors)
if you use the "With Me" form and submit your entries together BY SNAIL MAIL!!!

NEW NOTE: Reportedly you CAN also get the "with me" discount if you enter online!

Just do the individual online signup (above) and when you get to CP both of you must go
together to the NRA office on the side of the new building where the
scores are posted and tell them what you want.
They will verify the 'new' status of the new shooter and give
both of you forms you take to the finance office on the other side of the
building where you exchange the forms for $$!!

FOR CMP MATCHES and SAFS:

1- ONLINE ENTRY (with payment by credit card)

(yes, this is a 2 step process - you can't sign up for "everything" all at once!)

Q: How do know where and when to shoot?

When you arrive at Camp Perry you need to check in at the CMP (even if you are not firing any CMP matches!)

On Monday or Tuesday you must pick up your "competitor packet" from the NRA!

Among other items enclosed will be a very important little piece of paper indicating your shooting position and relay for the matches you have entered - see the example below! (NOTE: Your Harry Reeves and DR squadding will likely be different than for the other matches of the week.)

You'll be assigned to one particular firing point for most of the week (Preliminary, .22, CF and .45) but the time of day will cycle around so you'll get the experience of firing at each of the 3 relays: 7 AM, 9:30 AM and 1 PM (you'll get to do one of those twice!) Check the relay times which will be listed in the match bulletin to be sure of the time you need to be on the ready line (relay 2 time is an estimate!)

There will also be at least 2 sheets of labels you'll need to stick on your scorecards! (Note you may want to write in your squadding by hand for your own reminder!)

Click on the scorecard image below to see an example for the .45 match - NOTE: You'll have FOUR scorecards for each "900" (and each card will have a different color!)

When you sign these at the end of each match, you are agreeing that SHOT VALUES are correctly listed! If your scorer has not marked "X" in the shot value box, you won't get an X!! Addition will be checked in the Stats Office (just like we do in NJ!)

There will be opportunity to practice on the range on Tuesday! (You may also purchase practice time on Range 2 during the week!)

Q: What do REFEREES do and what do they look for?

Many Bullseye shooters who have competed in local matches have never seen an official NRA Referee until they come to Camp Perry! Their role is to see that NRA rules are properly interpreted and applied to for the benefit of all competitors.
They will resolve scoring challenges (instead of the "jury" assigned at most local matches)

Click for a summary of the role of NRA Referees at the National Matches by Chief Referee, Kenn Boyd!

Q: Where to eat?

Click on the map below for interactive version!

Bootleggers (2), McCarthy's (3), Jolly Roger's (4), Nagoya (8- NJ State Team Dinner will be held here in 2011!)
Diana's Deli (7), Mon Ami (5- local winery as well as restaurant)
and especially Andy's Ice Cream (6) - all "must stops" for NJ pistol shooters!

Q: What should I bring?

overall checklist (from Bob Verhasselt)

- ammo: at least 150 rounds for each .22, CF and .45 (to include individual matches and team matches, not accounting for practice or alibis!) Great summary below, thanks to Mike G. Soklaski!


		ADULT	JUNIOR
PRACTICE Tuesday	NRA AM Practice - No scoring	aprox. 30 rds Rimfire aprox. 60 rds 45	aprox. 30 rds Rimfire aprox. 60 rds 45
	CMP Warmup	40 rds Ball	?? 40 rds Rimfire ???
	Distinguished Revolver	30 rds Revolver	30 rds Revolver
	Harry Reeves	30 rds Revolver	30 rds Revolver
NRA Wednesday	Preliminary Day - NMC for each Gun	30 Rds Rimfire 60 Rds 45	30 Rds Rimfire 60 Rds 45

NRA Thursday	Rimfire Match	90 rds Rimfire	90 rds Rimfire
	Rimfire Team Match	30 rds Rimfire	30 rds Rimfire

NRA Friday	Centerfire Match	90 rds 45	90 rds 45
	CF Team Match	30 rds 45	30 rds 45

NRA Saturday	45 Match	90 rds 45	90 rds 45
	45 Team Match	30 rds 45	30 rds 45
CMP Sunday all Ironsights	Presidents 100	40 rds Ball	40 rds Rimfire
	NTI (Leg) EIC	30 rds Ball	30 rds Rimfire
	NTT Team EIC	30 rds Ball	30 rds Rimfire
	Total, Not including practice or alibis:
	MINIMUM Rimfire	150	290
	MINIMUM 45	360	360
	MINIMUM Ball	140	0
	MINIMUM Revolver	60	60

- To make your trip to the firing line easier, consider getting a "Geezer" cart instead of carrying all your gear by hand!

- Leave your stapler at home! No repair centers here - you'll need to get your 9 targets, complete with backers, to bring to the firing line! (fired and unfired targets fit below the benches - see below)

You may want to bring a chair - slow fire takes the full 10 minutes here!

You may want to bring a clamp for your brass catcher and a strap to keep your gunbox from blowing over (Camp Perry WIND is legendary!)

NOTE: When going from "long line" (slow fire) to "short line" (timed and rapid fire) you will need to move all your gear
from 50 yard line to 25 yard line!! Your cart must FIT BETWEEN the benches ("geezer carts" do fit!)

- Bring fishing gear?! - Port Clinton is the "Walleye Capitol of the World!"